00:00 And to everyone who has joined us today
00:02 for this event
00:03 titled Strengthening the Implementation of the World
00:07 Bank's Disability Inclusion and Accountability framework.
00:11 My name is Charlotte McLean and Nhlapo.
00:13 I'm the global disability advisor at the World Bank.
00:17 I'm a brown woman with long brown hair.
00:19 I have green eyes,
00:20 and today I'm wearing a black sweater with a white collar,
00:24 large hoop earrings,
00:25 and black reading glasses.
00:28 Before we begin today's discussion,
00:30 I want to point out some accessibility features that we have today.
00:37 First of all,
00:38 we have international sign interpretation
00:41 that will be spotlighted throughout the discussion.
00:45 Secondly,
00:46 we have closed captioning.
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00:59 Alternatively,
01:01 we're placing the streaming link in the chat box
01:04 as I speak.
01:06 We would encourage you.
01:09 To post questions
01:11 and use the chat box to introduce yourselves,
01:14 and let us know which organization
01:16 you represent.
01:19 Again,
01:19 please post questions that you have about
01:21 the updated disability inclusion and accountability framework,
01:25 and we'll try to get to those during the course of our discussion today.
01:29 Finally,
01:30 we will be recording today's discussion.
01:33 And the reason for that is that we would like to share this widely
01:37 with those who are not able to attend.
01:40 We know that there are many side events happening,
01:43 happening simultaneously
01:45 around the Global Disability summit,
01:47 making it difficult
01:49 for people to decide
01:51 which event to attend.
01:53 For that,
01:53 we're honored that you have selected to join us today.
01:58 Before I hand over to an amazing panel of speakers that we have.
02:03 I want to give a little bit of
02:05 background on the first disability inclusion and accountability framework.
02:11 So the first
02:13 disability inclusion accountability framework
02:15 was launched in 2018
02:18 at
02:19 the first Global Disability summit.
02:22 The disability framework
02:24 supports the mainstreaming of disability
02:26 in World Bank activities,
02:28 and it does so
02:30 by laying a roadmap for including disability
02:33 in banks policies,
02:35 operations,
02:36 and analytical work.
02:39 As well as very importantly,
02:42 building internal capacity
02:44 that supports clients in implementing
02:46 disability inclusive development programs.
02:50 Since its launch in 2018,
02:53 and along with the World Bank's 10 commitments
02:55 that were announced at the last Global Disability
02:59 summit,
02:59 we have seen a lot of progress at the World Bank
03:02 towards making sure that projects and programs
03:05 are more disability inclusive.
03:09 From the onset of this framework,
03:11 we saw it as a living document.
03:14 And so we have constantly we have been revising
03:17 revising it and ensuring that it takes into account
03:21 a lot of the new developments made at the bank in the last 3 years or so.
03:27 And so we found the timing of the 2nd Global Disability summit,
03:30 an ideal one
03:32 to present a refreshed version
03:34 of
03:35 many of many of the projects and some of our work over the past couple of years.
03:41 In addition to that,
03:43 we have also identified new thematic areas
03:46 to highlight where the bank can make significant impact
03:50 on persons with disabilities.
03:52 And so without further ado,
03:54 I'd like to introduce my colleague Janet Lord,
03:58 who's been working diligently on this updated version,
04:02 to tell us a bit more about the process of updating the disability framework
04:06 and some of the things that you will be able to find in this new version
04:10 that were
04:11 not captured in the first version.
04:15 Janet is a senior fellow at the Harvard Law School Project on Disability,
04:20 and we've been really fortunate to have her lead on this work.
04:24 Janet,
04:25 over to you.
04:26 Please provide us with an overview of
04:27 the Disability Inclusion and Accountability framework.
04:31 Thank you so much,
04:32 Charlotte.
04:33 Good morning,
04:34 afternoon,
04:34 and evening to all of you.
04:37 As Charlotte said,
04:37 I'm
04:38 Janet Lord,
04:39 and I had the great honor of working with,
04:41 with her whole team
04:43 and many others throughout the bank
04:45 and beyond on this project.
04:47 I am,
04:48 uh,
04:48 coming to you today from Baltimore,
04:50 Maryland,
04:51 Mid-Atlantic East Coast of the United States.
04:54 Um,
04:54 I'm a white woman of Northern European descent.
04:58 I have short blonde hair.
05:00 I'm wearing glasses,
05:01 I have green eyes,
05:03 and I'm wearing today a purple blouse and a
05:07 purple
05:08 vest,
05:09 and I have a necklace that I got in Egypt,
05:12 one of my favorite countries.
05:15 So,
05:15 let's get started and take a look at uh
05:18 this project and what it was all about.
05:21 If you could switch to the next slide,
05:23 please.
05:27 Great.
05:27 So what was the rationale for updating the World Bank's disability framework,
05:33 which,
05:33 uh,
05:34 you know,
05:34 was launched just a few years ago.
05:36 Well,
05:36 there was a sense that we wanted to uh reflect ongoing developments,
05:42 capture
05:43 really the proliferation of,
05:45 of new guidance and,
05:46 and also new commitments being undertaken both internationally and by the bank
05:51 to identify some new focal areas where the bank
05:54 is starting to have and can continue to have significant impact
05:59 on the inclusion of people with disabilities and
06:02 develop a theory of change for disability inclusion in the World Bank.
06:06 And there was also the sense uh of a
06:08 need to highlight regional advancements on disability inclusion,
06:13 uh,
06:13 and specifically for bank staff to identify
06:17 disability-inclusive country framework partnerships and systematic country
06:22 diagnostics.
06:23 Now,
06:23 to put it another way and maybe more interestingly,
06:26 we were really trying to capture,
06:27 I think,
06:28 the dynamism.
06:30 Or the rhizomatic change,
06:32 think ginger or bamboo,
06:35 that the CRPD,
06:36 the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities,
06:39 and Article 32,
06:41 is really helping to bring about.
06:43 And to first do that,
06:45 uh,
06:45 having a look at deeply at the World Bank's work,
06:48 but also,
06:49 um,
06:50 where possible,
06:51 uh,
06:51 to certainly highlight some of the other
06:54 Uh,
06:54 work that's being done,
06:56 uh,
06:56 by other donors,
06:57 by other organizations
06:59 around the world to advance disability-inclusive development.
07:03 Next slide,
07:04 please.
07:08 So,
07:08 the process was consisted of two phases,
07:11 and during the first phase,
07:13 uh,
07:13 there were sector reviews of World Bank projects,
07:17 uh,
07:17 across many different thematic areas,
07:19 looking at the not only projects,
07:22 but the analytics and practices,
07:25 looking at disability inclusion,
07:27 uh,
07:28 across the many sectors within which the bank works.
07:32 Uh,
07:32 there was the opportunity to review.
07:35 A range of new guidance that's been issued by the World Bank
07:38 and by other stakeholders,
07:41 uh,
07:41 and,
07:41 uh,
07:42 guidance that really tries to,
07:44 uh,
07:45 help
07:46 operationalize what disability inclusion means in specific thematic areas.
07:52 We consulted with World Bank teams across
07:54 various sectors and global practices,
07:57 accounted for commitments that have been undertaken
08:00 since 2018,
08:02 and ident
08:09 Going on,
08:10 not,
08:10 not a revisit revision as such.
08:13 Next slide.
08:18 Uh,
08:19 in the phase two,
08:20 we,
08:20 uh,
08:21 took a deeper dive,
08:22 reviewing topic areas to see,
08:25 uh,
08:25 what new
08:27 projects and commitments were undertaken.
08:29 We identified new areas that really weren't covered or covered
08:33 in detail in the first iteration of the framework.
08:36 We did internal outreach within the bank,
08:39 meeting with teams,
08:41 individual experts,
08:42 and others.
08:43 We shared drafts of updates for inputs
08:46 and feedback
08:47 externally as well with uh partners of the World Bank,
08:50 with
08:51 organizations of personal,
08:52 uh,
08:53 persons with disabilities,
08:54 with other donors.
08:56 Uh,
08:56 and in those consultations,
08:58 we received both oral feedback and we,
09:00 we received as well,
09:02 uh,
09:02 a range of different written feedback which,
09:05 uh,
09:05 we worked to reflect in the revision process,
09:08 and that took place this past autumn.
09:10 Next slide.
09:16 So in the new,
09:17 uh,
09:17 revision of the framework,
09:20 we identified 4 cross-cutting themes that,
09:22 uh,
09:23 wanted to
09:24 address.
09:24 The first was
09:25 social inclusion
09:27 and really trying to capture intersectionality,
09:30 uh,
09:30 in a way that wasn't done in detail in the,
09:32 in the first iteration.
09:34 Uh,
09:35 we have a,
09:35 a section on gender and disability inclusion,
09:38 and that reflects some of the new work that the bank's team is doing.
09:42 the Women Law and Development team and,
09:44 and others across uh the bank.
09:47 We,
09:48 uh,
09:48 incorporated a section on citizen engagement,
09:51 which of course is a cross-cutting issue that needs to be reflected in
09:55 all of the bank's work,
09:56 and finally,
09:57 we introduced a section on fragility,
10:01 conflict,
10:01 and violence environments,
10:03 um,
10:04 and that really gives a nod to some
10:05 of the dynamic work that's happened internationally to
10:09 refocus efforts as a result of Security Council Resolution
10:13 2475.
10:15 Next slide.
10:19 So,
10:20 in the thematic sections that are covered,
10:22 uh,
10:23 we've added some,
10:24 and that reflects some of the exciting work
10:26 that either the bank has undertaken since 2018
10:29 or uh work projects that are in the pipeline.
10:33 Uh,
10:33 so we certainly amplified the,
10:35 uh,
10:35 coverage of disability inclusive data.
10:38 A lot of that reflects the work that's been
10:40 done by the Washington Group on Disability Statistics,
10:43 UNICEF and others.
10:44 Added a section on food security and agriculture,
10:47 as well as GovTech,
10:49 and finally added a section on identification for development,
10:54 uh,
10:54 and that,
10:55 uh,
10:55 captures the work that the World Bank is doing
10:58 in
10:59 Developing countries,
11:00 uh,
11:00 to ensure that,
11:01 uh,
11:02 persons with disabilities have access to legal proof of identity,
11:06 which is critical.
11:07 Uh,
11:07 and then the other,
11:08 uh,
11:09 sectors,
11:09 uh,
11:10 were simply updated healthcare,
11:12 ICT,
11:14 education,
11:15 jobs,
11:15 resilience and disaster management,
11:17 social protection,
11:19 transport,
11:20 urban development,
11:21 and water sector operations.
11:23 New slide,
11:23 next slide,
11:24 please.
11:26 We also tried hard to reflect,
11:28 uh,
11:29 new developments since 2019
11:31 or 2018,
11:32 and there's quite a few of them,
11:33 uh,
11:34 uh,
11:34 some of them are captured here on this slide.
11:36 Obviously,
11:37 we had the launch of the UN Disability strategy,
11:40 the adoption of Security Council Resolution 2475 on the
11:45 protection of persons with disabilities in armed conflict,
11:48 uh,
11:48 the promulgation of guidelines on the inclusion
11:51 of persons with disabilities in humanitarian action.
11:55 Uh,
11:55 new module and the,
11:56 uh,
11:57 disarmament,
11:57 demobilization and reintegration standards,
12:00 uh,
12:01 and,
12:01 and work and good practices reflected in the UN flagship report on disability
12:07 and development.
12:09 Next slide.
12:11 I think that's it.
12:13 Right,
12:13 so that
12:15 gives you a snapshot and an overview of the work that we tried to,
12:19 uh,
12:19 to capture and the many dynamic developments happening in this field.
12:24 I'll pass it over to you,
12:25 Charlotte.
12:25 Thank you.
12:27 Thank you,
12:27 Janet,
12:28 for setting the stage,
12:29 um,
12:29 today.
12:30 And please,
12:31 um,
12:32 to colleagues who are joining,
12:33 please introduce yourself in the chat.
12:35 Let us know which organization you come from and where you are.
12:38 That would be great just to know who's here.
12:40 Um,
12:41 but Janet,
12:42 thank you for talking about the importance of,
12:44 um,
12:45 a framework like this and the importance of having a range of stakeholders.
12:51 I think what has been very important about
12:54 the first framework as well as the refresh to,
12:57 to um this particular framework
13:00 is that
13:01 the process has been important.
13:03 Ensuring that we have consultations,
13:05 ensuring that we consult with persons with disabilities
13:08 and organizations of persons with disabilities has been
13:12 an important aspect of,
13:13 um,
13:14 you know,
13:14 making sure that we have a good framework.
13:17 I want to now introduce
13:18 my World Bank colleague Sannaid Assefa.
13:22 Uh,
13:22 Sunai is a practice manager in social sustainability and the inclusion practice,
13:28 and she is responsible for West and Central Africa.
13:33 I want to highlight
13:35 that while Sn is currently managing projects in Western Central Africa,
13:40 She also spent time leading the World Bank,
13:42 the World Bank's work in other regions of Africa,
13:46 so she's very well placed to speak to us about the disability
13:49 framework and how it's framed the work um in her region,
13:53 but across the continent.
13:55 And also Sirnight was the manager
13:57 that worked very closely with us,
13:59 uh,
13:59 to finalize the,
14:00 the first strategy,
14:01 so we're really excited to have Sir Knight with us,
14:04 and over to you,
14:04 Senna.
14:07 Thank you,
14:08 Charlotte.
14:09 It's great to be here.
14:10 Uh,
14:11 good morning,
14:12 good afternoon,
14:13 good evening,
14:14 everyone.
14:14 I,
14:14 I hope you can hear me?
14:15 Yes?
14:16 OK.
14:18 Um,
14:18 I know we have,
14:19 uh,
14:19 several people joining from all over the world.
14:21 So this is,
14:22 this is a very exciting,
14:23 uh,
14:24 uh,
14:24 session for me to,
14:25 to attend.
14:26 My name is Sannai Assefa.
14:27 Uh,
14:28 I am a practice manager in the Social sustainability and inclusion
14:32 global practice,
14:33 um,
14:34 as Charles said,
14:35 currently covering several countries in West and Central Africa.
14:39 Uh,
14:39 and,
14:40 of course,
14:40 I had also worked in other parts of Africa.
14:43 Uh,
14:43 a little bit about myself.
14:44 I am connected from my home office in Maryland,
14:47 uh,
14:48 United States.
14:49 I am medium,
14:50 medium height,
14:51 although some would say I'm short.
14:54 Um,
14:54 I'm an African woman from Ethiopia,
14:57 Eritrea.
14:58 I have black hair,
14:59 brown eyes,
15:01 uh,
15:01 and today I'm wearing a black and white shirt and orange scarf.
15:05 So,
15:06 to the framework,
15:07 so as,
15:08 as,
15:08 as has been mentioned,
15:10 over the last few years,
15:11 uh,
15:11 the World Bank has ramped up its efforts to,
15:15 uh,
15:16 more effectively address disability inclusion
15:18 in
15:19 all its operations and engagements.
15:22 And this is very much,
15:23 this has been a very important agenda for Africa.
15:27 Um,
15:27 there are many contributing factors,
15:29 uh,
15:30 to this positive change,
15:31 including,
15:32 of course,
15:32 uh,
15:32 the disability inclusion and accountability framework,
15:36 uh,
15:36 the 10 commitments on disabled inclusive development,
15:39 and the new environmental and social framework,
15:42 uh,
15:42 that was,
15:43 uh,
15:43 adopted in 2018,
15:45 and,
15:46 uh,
15:46 the IDA 19 disabled inclusion commitments.
15:49 Uh,
15:50 focusing on the disability inclusion,
15:52 uh,
15:52 accountability framework,
15:54 uh,
15:54 this framework has been very instrumental
15:58 in laying out a roadmap for including
16:01 disability
16:03 and the World Bank policies,
16:05 operations,
16:06 analytical work.
16:08 Uh,
16:08 and building internal capacity for supporting clients,
16:12 uh,
16:12 and,
16:13 uh,
16:13 also our own internal capacity,
16:16 uh,
16:16 in terms of what
16:17 staff and teams should,
16:18 should focus on and how they should,
16:20 uh,
16:21 design,
16:22 uh,
16:22 disabled inclusive,
16:23 uh,
16:24 operations projects.
16:26 Uh,
16:26 if I was,
16:27 let me just give you a few examples.
16:29 Uh,
16:29 one of the 10 commitments,
16:31 uh,
16:31 focuses on inclusive education.
16:34 Uh,
16:34 stating that all World Bank finance projects,
16:37 uh,
16:38 should,
16:38 uh,
16:39 include or should be disability inclusive by 2025.
16:42 This is a
16:43 very ambitious,
16:44 uh,
16:44 commitment,
16:45 and,
16:46 uh,
16:46 I think we're making good progress.
16:47 We're not there yet,
16:48 but we're,
16:48 we're making good progress.
16:50 Uh,
16:51 for example,
16:51 In Ghana,
16:52 the Ghana Accountability for Learning Outcome Project
16:56 supports the transformation of existing
17:00 special schools and regional assessment centers
17:03 into inclusive education resource centers and a pilot,
17:06 pilot training for staff
17:08 in their new capacities.
17:10 Uh,
17:10 it supports the strengthening of civil society networks,
17:14 uh,
17:15 organizational capacity in engaging with communities on inclusive education.
17:19 Uh,
17:19 and similarly in Sierra Leone,
17:21 Nigeria,
17:22 and other countries,
17:23 we're seeing
17:24 most of our education projects,
17:26 World Bank financed education projects
17:29 are increasingly integrating disability inclusion
17:32 in their design and implementation.
17:35 Uh,
17:35 I'm happy to share that in addition to
17:37 these encouraging developments in the education sector,
17:40 we're seeing this in other sectors as well.
17:42 For example,
17:43 in Nigeria,
17:44 the Nigeria Agro-processing Productivity Enhancement
17:48 and Livelihood Improvement Support Project,
17:51 for example.
17:52 is being implemented across 6 states.
17:55 Um,
17:55 under one of the project components,
17:58 uh,
17:58 the,
17:59 the aim is to target at least 5 to 10% of the beneficiaries of the project should be
18:05 persons with disability.
18:07 Uh,
18:08 and the activities financed by this project include
18:11 support for,
18:11 uh,
18:12 skill training,
18:13 grant provision,
18:14 uh,
18:14 business development,
18:16 and mentorship opportunities.
18:18 Uh,
18:18 we see encouraging trends across several sectors,
18:21 transport,
18:22 health,
18:23 uh,
18:23 social protection and jobs,
18:25 uh,
18:26 so on and so forth.
18:27 I think,
18:27 um,
18:28 uh,
18:29 the,
18:29 the foundation is there and,
18:30 and,
18:31 and that has been,
18:32 uh,
18:32 sort of the success,
18:33 I would say,
18:34 of this,
18:34 this framework over the last couple of years.
18:37 Uh,
18:38 one of the innovations I would say,
18:40 and this,
18:40 I'm very proud of this,
18:42 uh,
18:42 because this is mainly has been led from,
18:44 from my unit.
18:46 Uh,
18:46 that we've put in place also is in
18:49 a lot of our countries,
18:50 at least in the countries that I cover,
18:53 we have established what we call
18:55 country engagement platforms for social inclusion.
18:58 Uh,
18:59 what
18:59 these platforms do is they allow us the technical,
19:03 to,
19:03 to bring in the technical support that is needed to make sure
19:06 every single project
19:08 or engagement that the bank supports,
19:11 uh,
19:11 is,
19:12 uh,
19:13 sort of,
19:13 there's a
19:15 A deliberate effort to make sure
19:17 we have thought about disability inclusion.
19:20 Sometimes it might make sense and sometimes
19:21 it wouldn't make sense to include those,
19:23 but at least the thought process
19:25 has been built into that.
19:26 So these platforms have been very helpful
19:29 in allowing us to bring in technical support across the bank,
19:32 but mostly led by the social development teams,
19:35 uh,
19:35 but also engaging internally with bank task teams
19:39 as As well as externally with clients,
19:41 with stakeholders,
19:43 with organizations uh for persons with disabilities and other stakeholders.
19:48 And,
19:48 and I think,
19:49 um,
19:50 when we think about
19:51 disability inclusion mainstreaming,
19:54 uh,
19:54 these kinds of instruments will be very,
19:55 very critical,
19:56 uh,
19:57 to make sure that we're really,
19:58 uh,
19:59 doing this at scale and across,
20:01 uh,
20:01 the bank's engagement portfolio.
20:04 So,
20:05 the disability inclusion and accountability framework
20:07 has provided important framework for,
20:10 for this process.
20:12 Uh,
20:12 I think we've made good progress,
20:14 and I think going forward and looking into IA 20
20:17 we see further opportunities for deepening
20:20 our work,
20:21 uh,
20:21 and,
20:21 and also scaling up,
20:23 um,
20:23 under the human capital special.
20:25 Theme
20:26 under IDA 20,
20:27 uh,
20:28 there are several,
20:28 uh,
20:29 policy commitments,
20:29 but one of the,
20:30 the important one is on universal access.
20:33 Uh,
20:33 the aim is to promote inclusive societies
20:37 supporting at least 18
20:39 IDA countries to be disability inclusive
20:42 by implementing them.
20:43 Let me just shut off this call here one sec.
20:47 By promoting the principles of non-discrimination,
20:51 inclusion,
20:51 and universal access,
20:53 I'm
20:54 as laid out in the environmental and social framework.
20:58 Uh,
20:58 and,
20:59 and prioritizing sectors such as education,
21:01 health,
21:02 social protection,
21:03 water,
21:04 urban development,
21:05 digital development,
21:06 and transport.
21:07 So,
21:08 we have,
21:09 uh,
21:09 I think we have a strong momentum.
21:11 The foundation is there,
21:12 the momentum is good,
21:13 and huge opportunities to significantly scale up our work in
21:17 Africa and other regions of the World Bank going forward.
21:20 This,
21:20 of course,
21:21 would require not only ramping up of the bank's own,
21:24 the World Bank's financial and technical resources,
21:28 but also deepening our partnership with organizations of
21:32 for persons with disabilities,
21:34 with governments,
21:35 with private sector,
21:36 uh,
21:37 and other development partners.
21:39 So let me stop here.
21:40 Uh,
21:41 thank you,
21:41 Charlotte over to you.
21:43 So thank you very much,
21:44 Senna,
21:44 and thank you for underscoring the value added of the framework
21:48 as a roadmap and sharing with us some exciting examples.
21:52 And I did just want to make a point made or underscore a point made by Snight that
21:58 the,
21:58 the projects that she's talking about are projects that are
22:02 bank mainstream projects.
22:04 And so it's really important for us to,
22:06 to recognize that
22:08 the framework has begun to impact on much larger bank projects.
22:13 So these are not necessarily small pilots,
22:16 they are indeed big um lending projects.
22:19 I want to now bring in Shitai
22:22 Asatawi.
22:24 Shitai is the director for advocacy and
22:26 communications with the Africa Disability Forum.
22:30 And she will speak to us about the importance of a framework
22:33 like this as it relates to organizations of persons with disabilities.
22:37 Over to you,
22:38 Shitai.
22:40 Thank you,
22:40 Charlotte.
22:41 Uh,
22:42 uh,
22:42 good morning.
22:44 Good afternoon,
22:45 and,
22:45 uh,
22:46 uh,
22:46 good evening,
22:47 uh,
22:48 good evening
22:49 to all the participants and the organizers of this important,
22:54 uh,
22:54 side event.
22:56 But uh
22:57 yeah,
22:58 sunlight makes my life difficult.
23:00 I don't know what to talk after
23:02 that clear and um you know,
23:05 um
23:07 uh very clear,
23:08 like,
23:08 I mean,
23:09 uh,
23:11 a speech and um
23:12 presentation of
23:14 uh the World Bank and the
23:17 usability of
23:18 uh the disability inclusion and accountability framework.
23:21 In any case,
23:23 let me add something
23:24 uh to that as well.
23:26 Yes,
23:26 I'm Stataus,
23:27 uh,
23:28 from Ethiopia.
23:29 Uh,
23:29 I'm working for the regional umbrella
23:33 organizations of,
23:34 uh,
23:34 uh
23:36 Uh,
23:37 persons with disabilities,
23:38 the African Disability Forum or ADF,
23:41 uh,
23:42 in short.
23:43 Uh,
23:43 I'm the new incoming
23:46 advocacy and communication,
23:47 uh,
23:48 director.
23:49 The African Disability Forum,
23:52 uh,
23:52 is striving to,
23:55 uh,
23:56 toward this strong voice of national
24:00 federations across Africa.
24:02 Presently,
24:03 it has,
24:04 uh,
24:05 as a member of 44
24:08 national federations,
24:10 8 sub-regional.
24:12 Uh,
24:13 organizations of,
24:14 uh,
24:15 persons
24:17 with disabilities
24:18 and also another four sub-regional
24:23 organizations.
24:24 Uh,
24:24 so,
24:24 uh,
24:25 saying this,
24:26 uh,
24:26 just to reflect my,
24:28 uh,
24:28 uh,
24:29 my opinion of the framework.
24:32 Uh,
24:33 yes,
24:34 this is very much important
24:36 and crucial,
24:37 and I think it's the right time
24:40 for the World Bank to undertake such,
24:43 uh,
24:45 uh,
24:46 such a step.
24:47 Uh,
24:48 it makes like the framework could make inclusion,
24:51 uh,
24:51 possible
24:52 and practical.
24:54 In the World Bank itself.
24:56 And also it could have ways
24:59 for the bank's partners
25:01 to follow track,
25:02 to really follow on that and adopt
25:05 such kinds of framework.
25:08 That's one
25:09 very uh big essential importance of the,
25:13 the framework.
25:14 And it could also
25:15 the new door
25:17 as a new door for collaboration.
25:20 And could enable to make dialogue and negotiation
25:23 easier for partners,
25:25 uh,
25:26 especially for those partners
25:28 who are working on the field of disability.
25:32 Uh,
25:33 and the others,
25:34 uh,
25:35 as well.
25:36 It could also,
25:37 um,
25:38 serve as a model.
25:40 Uh,
25:41 World Bank is such,
25:43 uh,
25:45 Great entity and so for this commitment,
25:49 for this step,
25:50 we are sure within the coming few years,
25:52 others also would follow
25:55 uh that model
25:56 and it will add on the,
25:58 the effort of
26:00 uh disability inclusion and towards also
26:04 the our ambition to achieve
26:07 the SDGs
26:08 17 goals.
26:11 And uh my,
26:12 uh,
26:13 so,
26:13 um,
26:14 the framework will be
26:16 uh crucial
26:17 for the,
26:18 for the World Bank
26:19 uh to get down also
26:21 in a very meaningful
26:23 manner
26:24 uh to
26:26 organizations of persons with
26:27 disabilities
26:28 and their
26:29 uh beneficiaries and
26:31 partners.
26:32 It could give us a good,
26:33 a good chance,
26:35 uh,
26:36 a good way in such
26:37 like this partnership with OPDs at the grassroots level.
26:41 Uh,
26:42 could be started,
26:43 for instance,
26:44 with,
26:45 uh,
26:45 with such
26:47 like global big issues like climate change.
26:50 Or for that matter,
26:52 uh,
26:52 gender inequality.
26:54 Uh,
26:54 so this is a good,
26:56 uh,
26:56 and a very nice achievement,
26:58 and I would like to congratulate you guys who are really working within the bank
27:04 to achieve
27:05 and manage this part.
27:06 So,
27:07 uh,
27:08 yeah,
27:09 uh,
27:09 let me stop here.
27:11 And thank you.
27:12 Thank you very much,
27:13 Shitai,
27:14 and I have to say we really value
27:16 the engagement of organizations of persons with disabilities.
27:19 It's now,
27:20 it's uh considered,
27:21 it's a part of our stakeholder engagement,
27:24 and you raised some very important points.
27:27 We're so glad to have been able to have you with us today and for you to
27:31 share our perspectives and a huge congratulations on
27:34 your new position within the Africa Disability Forum,
27:37 and we look,
27:38 we look forward to continuing to work with you.
27:41 Now I want to shift our,
27:42 thank you.
27:43 Now I want to shift our focus to a more sectoral perspective.
27:47 I'm bringing my colleague Samira E
27:49 Tarji.
27:51 And Samira is the lead,
27:52 a global lead on
27:54 the population and development,
27:55 health,
27:56 nutrition and population global practice at the World Bank.
27:59 Samira,
28:00 welcome.
28:00 We've been collaborating over the last
28:03 year or so,
28:03 and it's just fabulous that we're able to have you join us today.
28:06 So over to you,
28:07 Samira.
28:09 Thank you,
28:10 Charlotte,
28:10 and um good morning,
28:12 good evening,
28:12 afternoon,
28:13 everyone.
28:13 I come from um
28:16 Northern Virginia,
28:17 the Washington metropolitan area from my home office.
28:21 Uh
28:21 I am uh from Saudi Arabia,
28:24 so I am a brown woman.
28:25 Um,
28:26 I have a medium length,
28:27 um,
28:28 almost black hair and brown eyes,
28:30 and I'm wearing a red top this morning.
28:33 Um,
28:35 As Charlotte had indicated,
28:36 we've been really working very diligently with
28:39 the um social sustainability and inclusion,
28:42 global practice and specifically with Charlotte's team on looking out.
28:46 How can we actually place
28:48 inclusive health,
28:49 which also
28:50 by default um uh includes uh persons with disabilities.
28:55 So,
28:55 um,
28:56 within,
28:56 within the health and nutrition and population,
28:58 uh,
28:58 next slide,
28:59 please.
29:00 Global practice,
29:01 uh,
29:01 we really work on two goals.
29:03 Um,
29:03 the first one is to support universal
29:06 health coverage,
29:07 uh,
29:08 which is a right on its own,
29:10 and also to,
29:11 uh,
29:12 help.
29:13 Uh,
29:13 countries and individuals within countries,
29:15 um,
29:16 accumulate,
29:17 uh,
29:17 uh,
29:17 human capital.
29:19 So,
29:19 um,
29:20 if we just look at the semantics of the,
29:22 the situation,
29:23 we know that,
29:24 uh,
29:24 15% of the world's population actually living with disabilities,
29:28 hence the 1 billion
29:29 persons,
29:30 and 80% of those,
29:32 um,
29:32 live actually in developing countries which are
29:35 the focus of the World Bank,
29:36 especially within the IDAL International Development Association.
29:41 Typically,
29:41 also,
29:42 um,
29:42 these disabled person,
29:44 persons with disabilities usually have,
29:46 um,
29:47 a poor,
29:47 uh,
29:48 they come from poor,
29:49 poor background and they have a lot of
29:52 barriers to face in,
29:53 in health,
29:54 uh,
29:54 in healthcare,
29:56 um,
29:56 whether it's in,
29:57 in accessible facilities,
29:59 limited availability,
30:00 or high cost of healthcare,
30:02 the things we usually face within the uh universal health coverage domain.
30:07 Um,
30:08 as,
30:09 as indicated by,
30:10 by my colleagues who spoke before me,
30:12 there is also this,
30:13 this,
30:14 um,
30:15 a feature of,
30:16 of,
30:16 uh,
30:16 of low-income
30:18 countries,
30:19 uh,
30:19 that cannot afford quality healthcare,
30:21 uh,
30:22 is,
30:22 is usually host to,
30:24 to persons with
30:25 with uh disabilities.
30:27 Uh,
30:27 which leads to more,
30:28 uh,
30:29 worse health outcomes.
30:30 Uh,
30:31 they are,
30:32 for example,
30:33 3 times more likely to be diabetic,
30:36 probably based on the poor diet,
30:38 2 times more likely to be HIV positive because of lack of access
30:43 to healthcare and to testing and diagnostics,
30:46 and also 2 to 3 times more likely to die from COVID-19
30:50 because of the same access issues
30:52 and because of the same um inaccessibility to healthcare.
30:56 Children,
30:57 uh,
30:58 unfortunately,
30:59 uh,
30:59 with disabilities are actually 10 more times likely to be seriously ill
31:04 and 2 times more likely to be,
31:06 uh,
31:06 suffering from malnutrition and,
31:08 and stunting.
31:09 Next,
31:10 please.
31:15 So in a,
31:15 in a,
31:16 in a nutshell,
31:17 uh,
31:18 we,
31:18 we know that the uh
31:19 inclusive healthcare is important because it supports the fundamental,
31:24 the fundamental right
31:26 to help for persons with disability
31:28 and it also helps create a robust health system
31:31 that,
31:32 that is a building block towards a universal health coverage
31:35 and also contributing to a better health outcomes for persons with disability,
31:40 which is actually an underpinning for their
31:42 human capital formation because we know that.
31:45 Um,
31:46 uh,
31:46 young and educated and healthy adults make a better workforce and
31:51 less dependency ratio as they age.
31:53 Next,
31:54 please.
31:57 So,
31:57 I am not going to dwell a lot on the framework.
32:01 This is a busy slide and it's been adopted from the missing billion
32:04 Health Systems framework and the WHO's Health System framework as well,
32:09 the building blocks.
32:10 It just talks about how,
32:11 where we start uh from the system,
32:14 uh,
32:14 thinking and the system engagement
32:16 on leadership and governance,
32:18 we need to think
32:19 about the inclusivity of all of these people with
32:22 disabilities into the framework of the health system.
32:25 We also need to find financing and sustainable financing for that reason.
32:30 Health information system is extremely important because without it,
32:34 we really cannot
32:35 trace and follow
32:36 the needs of,
32:37 of persons with disabilities.
32:39 Service delivery also is another building block because we
32:43 need to look at the traditional demand and supply
32:45 dimensions of the service delivery system,
32:49 uh,
32:49 including autonomy and awareness and affordability
32:52 when it comes to health services,
32:54 some of which are
32:55 truly expensive.
32:57 And on the supply side,
32:58 we need to look at health facilities that have not just the infrastructure,
33:01 physical infrastructure,
33:03 but also the orientation,
33:05 the understanding,
33:06 and
33:07 the mix of skills for those people who are,
33:09 uh,
33:10 rendering these services
33:12 and access to essential medicines,
33:14 and specialized services,
33:15 uh,
33:16 and,
33:16 and,
33:16 and,
33:16 and other aspects.
33:18 We've touched upon the health workforce and how they,
33:21 they need to be responsive and aware.
33:23 And that would contribute to outputs which are characterized by
33:28 good access and good coverage and quality services
33:32 and also safe services.
33:34 On the outcomes,
33:35 um,
33:35 we,
33:36 we,
33:36 we aim within this framework to have um
33:39 healthy outcomes,
33:40 um,
33:41 responsiveness,
33:42 social and financial risk mitigation,
33:44 and protection and also efficiency of the health system response
33:48 to persons with disabilities.
33:50 Next,
33:50 please.
33:55 So,
33:55 um,
33:56 3,
33:58 key simple but not so simple steps actually starts by,
34:02 uh,
34:02 consulting,
34:03 and that would be the learning curve because,
34:05 and,
34:06 and the,
34:07 the,
34:07 the work with stakeholders,
34:09 uh,
34:09 had been touched upon by the previous speakers.
34:11 I,
34:11 I think it cannot be
34:13 stressed enough that the,
34:15 that,
34:15 that kind of learning curve.
34:17 Especially
34:18 educating the policymakers and the middle management in a,
34:22 in a,
34:22 in a certain setting um
34:24 is extremely important and it should
34:26 include persons with disabilities or their representatives
34:29 and also technical experts on disability and inclusion.
34:33 That would lead to the learning,
34:35 um,
34:36 experience which actually reflects
34:39 on the projects,
34:40 uh,
34:40 to ensure that the analysis adopts
34:43 a disability-inclusive lens that actually
34:45 would yield,
34:47 uh,
34:47 a mapping of the current situation,
34:49 the priority issues,
34:51 uh,
34:52 the priority key gaps,
34:54 and identifies the process that would lead to,
34:56 um,
34:57 to,
34:57 to,
34:58 um,
34:59 rendering these gaps and,
35:01 and working on them.
35:02 And all of these consultations and learning
35:04 curves and the information that that collection would
35:07 actually contribute to the change that you would want to see in the health system,
35:10 especially in a service delivery health system.
35:13 And if we start from
35:14 the macro level at the Country-level policy dialogue,
35:17 which really includes disability,
35:19 inclusive health and creates awareness among key stakeholders.
35:23 Uh,
35:23 at the level of the project or program design inclusive
35:27 health is also reflected in the analysis
35:30 with a dedicated budget which covers the financing
35:33 and also probably a consideration for targeted programs to address
35:38 many
35:38 but specific needs of people with disabilities.
35:42 Um,
35:42 training of the project staff and
35:44 implementation partners on disability inclusion,
35:47 and finally,
35:48 the,
35:48 the,
35:48 the monitoring and evaluation just to look at
35:51 the impacts of these policies and these shift and change,
35:55 uh,
35:55 shifts and changes in the,
35:57 in the policymaking and also at the project level.
36:00 Next,
36:00 please.
36:06 So,
36:06 um,
36:07 walking the talk within,
36:09 within,
36:09 within the,
36:09 the World Bank,
36:10 I think we
36:12 can,
36:12 can broadly say that we have a history of very good
36:16 anti repressional work
36:18 within the institution,
36:19 but um it's,
36:20 it's,
36:20 it's been focused mainly on middle-income countries.
36:23 And um
36:24 this is also a reaction by,
36:26 by,
36:26 by,
36:27 um,
36:27 Specific requests from the countries themselves.
36:30 The good news is that uh we've been working uh across the summer on the
36:35 new IDA-20 uh commitments,
36:37 the IDA-20 cycle,
36:38 and that is going to have um a dedicated commitment,
36:42 policy commitment to,
36:43 um,
36:44 to include
36:45 services for,
36:46 uh,
36:46 persons with disabilities,
36:47 specifically targeting
36:49 the low-income countries because that's,
36:51 that's how the IDA cycle works.
36:53 Um,
36:54 there is also an alignment with the Global Pledge for disability.
36:58 Uh,
36:58 the framework that's been discussed at the beginning of this session,
37:01 um,
37:02 that was developed by the,
37:04 the Missing Billion Initiative
37:06 also,
37:06 uh,
37:07 uh,
37:08 ensures that the bank supports,
37:09 uh,
37:10 The health and nutrition and population capacity building within,
37:13 within,
37:13 within,
37:14 um,
37:14 within the,
37:15 uh,
37:16 the,
37:16 the World Bank,
37:17 and that would include really uh guidance notes for task team leads and,
37:21 and other people,
37:22 other
37:23 staff who are working on designing projects and as we
37:25 indicated before,
37:26 there has to be some learning from consultations and from uh
37:31 talking to stakeholders.
37:33 The framework that,
37:34 that we've been talking about
37:36 is one of many several uh practical steps that are
37:39 being taken and adopted by the bank to actually enhance
37:43 the,
37:43 the system thinking about disability inclusion,
37:46 not just about a one-off uh
37:48 product whether it's analytical or operation.
37:52 And consequently,
37:52 the bank is taking these practical steps to show and,
37:57 and,
37:57 and
37:58 uh display its commitment to addressing this gap and
38:01 also bringing a much desired and much needed health services
38:06 to persons with disabilities.
38:08 Next,
38:08 please.
38:12 So on a word on the implementation,
38:15 um,
38:15 awareness raising is,
38:17 is extremely important in within,
38:19 within the,
38:20 within the bank and also
38:22 within external stakeholders,
38:23 and we have
38:25 many ongoing dialogues with governments,
38:27 um,
38:27 our traditional partners,
38:29 and this is also a very good opportunity.
38:31 To actually collect data and
38:33 provide evidence
38:35 and,
38:35 and,
38:35 and embark on awareness raising.
38:38 Training is also extremely important because
38:40 sometimes teams would want to include disability
38:43 into their outlook whether it's the country um
38:46 uh cooperation program or otherwise.
38:49 So I think we also need
38:51 to,
38:51 um,
38:52 to translate that awareness raising into some skills development within,
38:56 within the bank teams and within the external partners as well.
38:59 Technical assistance,
39:00 of course,
39:01 is extremely important.
39:02 Sometimes
39:03 the information is right there,
39:04 but no one actually um
39:06 can look at it.
39:07 Or if you look at it,
39:08 you cannot interpret it into something that can be
39:11 put into practice and,
39:12 and translated into,
39:13 uh,
39:14 into operations.
39:15 And,
39:16 and the last one,
39:16 but not the least,
39:17 is the technical notes that we have been uh producing.
39:21 And this was discussed before,
39:22 so I am not going
39:23 to stop at length at it.
39:25 Next,
39:26 please.
39:27 That was a part one
39:28 technical note on,
39:30 on,
39:30 on accessibility.
39:34 And the thematic fact sheets that were also mentioned,
39:38 there was one on WOS,
39:40 um,
39:40 sector of operations.
39:42 Next,
39:43 please,
39:44 and the one next.
39:46 Slide swipes.
39:48 Sorry,
39:49 that was your last slide.
39:51 OK.
39:51 OK,
39:52 I'll leave it there.
39:53 I'm back to you,
39:54 Charlotte.
39:55 Thank you.
39:56 Samira,
39:56 thank you very,
39:57 very much and for a very substantive presentation on promoting
40:01 inclusive health and I,
40:03 and identifying three key steps that I think are very
40:05 helpful in us thinking about how we actually operationalize this,
40:09 consult,
40:10 learn,
40:11 and change.
40:11 So thank you very much for that.
40:13 I now want to bring in my colleague Marie Kostini.
40:16 Uh,
40:17 Mari is going to share with us a bit more about some of the resources.
40:21 That we've developed to support our
40:23 staff in operationalizing disability inclusive development,
40:26 um,
40:27 and with that,
40:27 I'd like to hand over to you,
40:28 Mari.
40:36 I can't hear you,
40:36 Marie.
40:37 Marie,
40:38 I think you might be on mute.
40:40 Oh,
40:40 sorry.
40:41 All good.
40:43 OK.
40:44 Thank you,
40:44 Charlotte.
40:44 So good morning.
40:46 You try.
40:46 Good afternoon and good evening to everyone.
40:49 Uh,
40:49 I'm connecting from Washington DC this morning
40:52 and as Charlotte,
40:53 Charlotte mentioned,
40:54 uh,
40:55 my name is Marie Oystenen.
40:56 I'm a senior social
40:58 development specialist at the World Bank.
41:00 Uh,
41:01 I'm a white woman,
41:02 uh,
41:02 with,
41:02 uh,
41:03 brown short hair.
41:05 I have uh green eyes,
41:07 and uh today I'm wearing a black shirt.
41:11 So while the uh disability inclusion and
41:14 accountability framework supports the mainstreaming of disability
41:18 in World Bank activities,
41:20 we are very aware that more technical support and guidance is required as,
41:25 as mentioned by uh Z Samira.
41:29 Uh,
41:29 to support our teams further
41:31 in operationalizing disability-inclusive development,
41:34 we have developed a suite
41:36 of technical nodes,
41:38 uh,
41:39 in several sectors including health,
41:42 as mentioned by Samira,
41:44 education,
41:44 water,
41:45 data,
41:46 digital development,
41:48 disaster risk management,
41:50 and,
41:50 uh,
41:51 gender-based violence to mention a few.
41:54 Uh,
41:55 these various documents are being shared with you in the chatbox now,
42:00 and many are available
42:02 on our World Bank app page which is also being shared with you now.
42:06 Thank you,
42:06 Ana.
42:08 Uh,
42:08 we also do.
42:10 Uh,
42:11 regular awareness raising through internal blogs and events,
42:16 provide training,
42:17 uh,
42:17 sorry,
42:18 technical assistance to World Bank teams
42:21 and offer regular training sessions to our staff
42:24 to dive deeper
42:25 into these areas of focus,
42:28 and we have seen a lot of rich engagement
42:31 come from those trainings.
42:33 Next,
42:34 uh,
42:34 slide,
42:34 please,
42:34 Ana.
42:39 So the uh Internal
42:40 International Development Association,
42:43 IDA
42:44 uh assist low-income economies as mentioned by my colleagues,
42:48 Denait and Samira already.
42:50 Un IDA 20,
42:52 starting in July 2022,
42:56 support towards disability inclusion across sectors will further
43:01 scale up.
43:03 Through this,
43:03 we have deepened our commitment to universal access,
43:07 non-discrimination and inclusion.
43:10 To support the rolling out of the disability
43:12 framework and the commitment on universal access,
43:16 we are finalizing a technical note
43:18 focusing on accessibility.
43:21 Next slide,
43:22 please,
43:22 Anna.
43:27 So the note includes 5 thematic uh fact sheets
43:31 focusing on ICT,
43:34 urban sector,
43:35 infrastructure,
43:36 water,
43:37 sanitation,
43:37 and hygiene,
43:39 and transportation.
43:42 The idea is that other sectors can refer to a combination
43:46 of these five
43:48 sheets.
43:49 For example,
43:50 education
43:51 can use infra plus ICT,
43:54 perhaps also transportation and WAS in some cases,
43:57 and,
43:58 and so on.
43:59 So the accessibility note will be launched in March,
44:02 so please uh stay tuned.
44:04 Back to you,
44:05 uh Charlotte.
44:06 Thank you so much.
44:08 Thank you very much,
44:09 Murray,
44:09 and uh thank you very much,
44:11 Anna,
44:11 for posting
44:13 all of those resources in the chat box.
44:15 And as indicated,
44:17 Mary,
44:17 we do invite you to,
44:18 to our website to
44:20 further explore some other documents that we,
44:23 we might,
44:24 um,
44:25 we,
44:25 we have and that might be of interest to you.
44:27 So I think Marie has mentioned that we've developed a range of a suite of documents,
44:32 a suite of
44:33 support documents and resources um for our staff.
44:38 And
44:41 To,
44:41 um,
44:42 develop these pieces of,
44:44 of,
44:44 of work to ensure that
44:46 we are
44:47 gaining more education and capacity within the bank
44:51 teams about,
44:52 um,
44:53 developing
44:54 and ensuring that disability is included in,
44:56 in all of our projects.
44:58 I now want to bring in one of my colleagues from the UN.
45:02 To speak about another strategy document that has been developed,
45:06 and he will speak about its impact
45:09 that it's had across the UN agencies,
45:12 but also we've asked him to touch on some of the
45:14 challenges that um the UN has experienced in implementing the strategy.
45:19 And we're so fortunate to have Gopal Mitra with us today,
45:23 and Gopal is a senior social affairs officer with the disability
45:27 team at the at the United Nations and has been very
45:31 Uh,
45:31 central in the,
45:32 in,
45:33 in the Andes.
45:34 Um,
45:35 so,
45:35 Gopal,
45:36 welcome.
45:37 Thank you for joining us and over to you.
45:41 Uh,
45:41 thank you,
45:41 uh,
45:42 so much,
45:42 Charlotte.
45:43 Uh,
45:43 uh,
45:44 it's a pleasure to join the event today,
45:46 and it is amazing to hear,
45:48 uh,
45:48 the wealth of experience that stems out of practice,
45:52 uh,
45:52 from your colleagues in the World Bank.
45:54 Uh,
45:55 good evening,
45:56 uh,
45:56 good morning,
45:57 good afternoon,
45:57 uh,
45:58 uh,
45:58 friends.
45:59 Uh,
45:59 my name is Gopal Mitra,
46:01 and I'm connecting,
46:02 uh,
46:02 from the UN headquarters in New York today.
46:05 Um,
46:05 I am from South Asia,
46:07 so I'm a brown man.
46:08 I have
46:09 a mixture of gray and black hair,
46:12 mostly more gray,
46:13 I must say.
46:14 Uh,
46:14 I'm wearing a gray suit and a white shirt,
46:16 and I wear,
46:17 I'm wearing dark
46:19 glasses.
46:19 I identify as a person with disability.
46:22 So first of all,
46:23 uh,
46:24 my congratulations to you,
46:25 Charlotte,
46:26 and to all colleagues in the World Bank for updating
46:30 the Disability Inclusion Accountability framework.
46:32 We know it's,
46:33 it's never easy,
46:34 uh,
46:35 uh,
46:35 to take into account all the,
46:37 uh,
46:37 developments that have
46:38 happened
46:39 over the last few years and,
46:41 and meaningfully incorporated in a,
46:43 in a,
46:43 in a,
46:44 in a framework.
46:45 So,
46:45 amazing work.
46:47 Uh,
46:48 so I,
46:48 over the next few minutes,
46:49 I will tell you about,
46:50 uh,
46:50 give you a flavor of the UN disability inclusion strategy,
46:54 uh,
46:55 and,
46:55 and some of the some reflections,
46:57 uh,
46:57 from the last 2.5,
46:58 3 years of implementation.
47:01 Uh,
47:02 so,
47:02 Friends launched in June 2019,
47:04 the UN Disability Inclusion strategy.
47:08 Uh,
47:08 uh,
47:09 provides a clear framework and a roadmap.
47:13 To the United Nations system
47:15 to really advance its work
47:18 on disability inclusion
47:20 both in programs and in operations,
47:22 internal operations,
47:24 while launching the strategy,
47:25 the Secretary General observed
47:28 that he would like to see
47:30 the
47:30 UN lead by example on disability inclusion,
47:34 and the strategy really provides us a blueprint,
47:36 a framework to do so.
47:39 As I said,
47:39 the strategy covers both programs and internal operations.
47:44 Uh,
47:44 it is wide ranging in scope.
47:46 It covers all the three pillars of the UN's work,
47:50 development,
47:50 human rights,
47:51 and peace and security,
47:53 and it applies to both headquarters
47:55 and
47:56 uh work in the countries,
47:58 the country teams.
47:59 So the policy has an,
48:01 uh,
48:01 the strategy has a policy and an accountability framework.
48:06 The accountability framework is where the teeth of the policy lies,
48:10 and it consists of two components.
48:12 One is an entity accountability framework which applies to UN agencies,
48:17 and the second
48:18 is a UN country team scorecard,
48:21 which applies to
48:23 the joint delivering as one,
48:25 the UN delivering as one
48:27 at the country level.
48:29 So,
48:29 these,
48:30 uh,
48:30 the both the accountability,
48:32 uh,
48:32 framework components,
48:34 it has very concrete indicators,
48:36 15 indicators
48:38 in the entity accountability framework and 14
48:40 indicators in the country team scorecard.
48:43 And they are clustered
48:45 around 4 core areas
48:48 leadership,
48:48 strategic planning,
48:49 and management.
48:51 Inclusiveness,
48:52 programming,
48:53 and organizational culture.
48:55 Now,
48:56 consulting organizations of persons with disabilities and accessibility,
49:00 there are specific indicators on that,
49:03 and these are foundational and cross-cutting in nature.
49:08 Uh,
49:10 so,
49:10 the UN agencies and country teams have
49:12 been implementing the strategy since June 2019.
49:16 And have been reporting annually on it.
49:19 From nearly 3 years of implementation.
49:23 What we have seen is the strategy has
49:26 clearly triggered positive action across the UN system.
49:31 The reporting has shown,
49:33 the annual reporting
49:34 that more and more.
49:36 UN agencies
49:38 at headquarters as well as the country level are in are better integrating
49:44 disability inclusion in the strategic plans.
49:47 There have been
49:48 concrete steps to enhance
49:52 accessibility,
49:52 both physical and digital.
49:54 A lot of policies,
49:57 existing policies and strategies
49:59 are being
50:01 are being updated
50:03 to better address disability inclusion,
50:05 and I'm talking about mainstream policies and strategies,
50:08 and a lot of uh uh specific policies have also been uh developed,
50:13 developed,
50:14 uh,
50:14 uh,
50:15 to uh
50:16 better
50:17 uh promote disability inclusion across the UN system.
50:20 The implementation has also enabled us
50:24 to identify significant areas where significant gaps exist.
50:29 For example,
50:30 after the first year of implementation,
50:32 we noticed
50:34 that
50:34 disability inclusive procurement is one area where there is very huge gap.
50:40 So we have worked with the UN procurement network.
50:43 Uh,
50:43 of which World Bank is a part
50:45 and have
50:46 come up with system-wide,
50:48 very practical guidelines on
50:50 promoting disability inclusive procurement.
50:53 Now,
50:53 2 or 3 key lessons that we have learned is,
50:56 first,
50:57 leadership commitment
50:58 is key
51:00 to
51:00 maintaining momentum
51:02 and achieving results.
51:04 Second,
51:05 we have seen that.
51:07 Disability inclusion,
51:08 where
51:09 different
51:10 parts of the organization come together,
51:12 as was evident from the presentations today.
51:15 To
51:15 work on disability inclusion,
51:17 results are achieved.
51:18 It's not only the disability team or the disability focal point.
51:22 And thirdly,
51:24 strong coordination
51:26 always plays a great role in large organizations like
51:29 the UN and applies to the World Bank.
51:30 Also,
51:31 I feel.
51:32 Uh,
51:32 for,
51:33 for colleagues to be able to share good practices,
51:35 to share information,
51:37 and also encourage each other with the work they're doing.
51:40 So I'll conclude by saying
51:42 that,
51:42 uh,
51:43 the UN disability inclusion strategy has not only helped us
51:47 to accelerate our progress on disability inclusion,
51:51 but it has also.
51:52 Enhance the accountability,
51:54 internal accountability of the UN on disability inclusion,
51:57 as well as external accountability
52:00 to the Secretary-General's report to the General Assembly on
52:03 the progress that is being made on the strategy.
52:06 Uh,
52:06 uh,
52:06 my colleague Anna will share,
52:08 uh,
52:08 the link to the strategy's website where you can know more about the strategy,
52:12 and also,
52:13 uh,
52:13 you can get a,
52:14 a,
52:15 a glimpse of where the UN system stands with results to its performance,
52:19 uh,
52:20 on,
52:20 with regards to the accountability framework.
52:22 So I'll stop there and,
52:23 uh,
52:24 we'll be happy to respond to any questions.
52:26 Over to you,
52:26 Charlotte.
52:27 Thank you very much,
52:28 Gopal,
52:29 and thank you for highlighting the importance of uh the,
52:33 the strategy
52:34 and the fact that it's triggered positive action within the UN.
52:38 But also I think a really important point you
52:40 mentioned was that it's assisted in identifying gaps,
52:43 and,
52:43 and that's a really important point to take forward.
52:46 And then I think your point around it's also made,
52:49 um,
52:50 it's also,
52:51 it's also addressed disability
52:53 beyond just the focal points working on disability,
52:56 but it's now very much part of everybody's agenda.
52:59 So that is indeed very exciting and thank you very much for joining us.
53:04 Last but certainly not least,
53:06 I'm
53:07 excited to invite the UN Special Rapporteur
53:09 on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities,
53:11 Mr.
53:12 Gerard Quinn.
53:13 Um,
53:14 Gerard will help us to understand the
53:16 importance of a document like the Disability inclusive
53:19 inclusion and Accountability framework.
53:22 At an international level.
53:23 We've heard about how it's worked
53:25 um at a regional level from SAA,
53:28 uh,
53:28 we've heard how it's worked from a sectoral level from
53:31 Samira,
53:32 uh,
53:32 we've heard from Shitai how it's worked
53:34 for organizations of persons with disabilities,
53:37 um,
53:37 we've heard from
53:39 From Gopal,
53:40 how the strategy has worked,
53:42 or a different strategy,
53:43 but a strategy all the same has worked within the UN.
53:47 So Gerard,
53:47 if you could talk to us a bit about what this means at an international level,
53:52 uh,
53:52 that would be fantastic.
53:54 Please take it away,
53:54 Gerard.
53:56 Thank you,
53:56 Charlotte,
53:57 and I apologize for joining late.
53:59 We were
54:00 on a spotlight uh event in the GDS and unfortunately,
54:04 we had a lot of
54:05 technical problems,
54:07 um,
54:07 but,
54:08 but here I am.
54:09 So,
54:09 it's always an honor and a pleasure to be with you,
54:12 Charlotte,
54:13 and the World Bank.
54:14 As the World Bank continue your journey
54:17 in making development assistance more open to and inclusive of
54:22 persons with disabilities.
54:24 I see this as a bigger mission
54:26 of the World Bank
54:27 to lead by example
54:29 in showing how development assistance can be harnessed
54:32 to expand opportunities for all
54:35 in a circular economy and society,
54:38 a vision shared between the UN SDGs
54:41 and the UNCRPD.
54:43 Let me remind you,
54:45 and I'm sure you need no reminding,
54:47 that the vast majority of persons with disabilities
54:50 live in the global South.
54:52 Arcane debates that tend to transfix us in the North
54:57 about,
54:57 for example,
54:58 progressive realization
55:00 of existing social protection programs
55:03 make little or no sense
55:05 in contexts where economic development
55:07 is uneven,
55:09 extractive,
55:10 and exploitative.
55:12 A rising tide
55:13 does not necessarily raise all ships.
55:16 Even when economic development is taking root,
55:19 the cumulative effect
55:21 of a historical lack of educational opportunity
55:25 means that many talented persons with disabilities
55:28 will be left behind.
55:30 Worse,
55:31 endemic conflicts and political instability
55:35 challenge the task
55:36 of building inclusive economic and social systems
55:40 for the benefit of all.
55:42 Nothing is inevitable.
55:44 All of these Gordian knots can be undone,
55:47 and a dynamic for change
55:49 and for inclusiveness
55:50 can be inserted
55:52 even in the most unpromising of circumstances.
55:55 Indeed,
55:56 to me,
55:56 this is the World Bank at its very best.
55:59 On platforms like this,
56:01 I,
56:01 I often point out the fact
56:03 that any new treaty regime
56:06 means that existing treaty regimes
56:08 have to respond and adjust.
56:11 Even if the UNCRPD did not have Article 32
56:15 on international cooperation,
56:17 then the logic of the treaty alone
56:20 would point to more intentional efforts
56:22 on development assistance.
56:25 Uh,
56:25 of course,
56:25 the World Bank is not a state,
56:28 much less a state party
56:30 to a treaty,
56:31 but would be anomalous in the extreme if the world leader
56:34 on development assistance
56:36 were not taken,
56:37 were not to take a lead in guiding others.
56:40 And that is exactly what the UN disability inclusion strategy
56:44 requires in any event.
56:46 Allow me to focus,
56:47 Charlotte on two parts
56:49 of the updated accountability framework
56:52 that overlap directly with my concerns as UN Special Rapporteur.
56:57 The first has to do with fragility,
57:00 conflict and violence.
57:02 I greatly welcome this focus,
57:04 both as a way of avoiding conflicts
57:07 or at least making them less likely.
57:10 And as a way of building out from conflicts
57:13 to lay the groundwork for a more sustainable
57:16 and conflict-free future.
57:18 When we inserted Article 11 into the treaty
57:22 on situations of risk and humanitarian crises,
57:25 I,
57:26 for one,
57:27 did not anticipate
57:29 that hot conflicts would still be with us
57:31 and indeed proliferate.
57:33 Their character may have changed,
57:35 but their impact
57:37 is doubly devastating on population groups
57:40 such as persons with disabilities.
57:43 Furthermore,
57:43 their impact can be
57:45 and most assuredly are intergenerational
57:49 with long-term effects
57:51 on the challenges of making more inclusive societies and economies.
57:56 We as UN Special Rapporteur,
57:58 are doing our best
58:00 to place focus on what inclusion means
58:03 in avoiding conflicts,
58:05 in dealing with the conduct of hostilities,
58:08 in peacekeeping,
58:09 and most crucially for my.
58:11 Point of view
58:12 in peacebuilding operations.
58:15 It's exceptionally gratifying to me
58:17 to see the World Bank play its part
58:20 in mitigating the effects of conflicts
58:22 to ensure a smoother path to inclusive development.
58:26 Without this,
58:27 the considerable losses
58:29 generated by conflicts will just lie where they fall,
58:33 and they fall extremely heavily on persons with disabilities.
58:38 The second point of overlap with our work
58:40 has to do with your focus
58:42 on digital development.
58:44 Let me suggest three very brief reasons why I think this is important.
58:50 First of all,
58:50 we have become very accustomed
58:53 to many obstacles to development
58:56 in the North.
58:57 We have tended to underplay
58:59 the role of technology
59:01 in helping us surmount these obstacles.
59:04 In many respects,
59:05 the developing South
59:07 will be able to avoid many mistakes we've made
59:10 in the developed North,
59:12 so we can actually learn from them
59:14 and they can show us the way.
59:16 I'm thinking in particular
59:18 about the impact of new technology
59:21 in making community living a reality.
59:25 Second,
59:25 building the digital divide is crucial
59:28 in spreading the benefits to all.
59:31 So I very much welcome the intention to focus on this
59:34 in the revised framework.
59:36 Last but not least,
59:38 one of the key drivers of our digital future
59:41 is artificial intelligence.
59:44 which can be both a help
59:45 as well as a hindrance in driving development
59:49 and inclusive development.
59:51 In our recent thematic report
59:53 on this,
59:54 we draw specific attention
59:56 to the balance of risks and opportunities
59:59 presented by artificial intelligence.
1:00:02 We all need to do more
1:00:04 to get the very best of these advances
1:00:07 whilst avoiding some predictable problems.
1:00:11 AI gives us incredibly powerful tools
1:00:15 to personalize services,
1:00:17 even to advance peer support
1:00:19 in the mental health field
1:00:21 and avoid
1:00:22 coercion.
1:00:23 Can I point to the sterling work
1:00:25 of the Center for Democracy and Technology
1:00:28 and indeed.
1:00:29 Face Equality International,
1:00:31 who provide powerful accounts of some of the downsides of the technology.
1:00:37 For example,
1:00:38 face recognition technology,
1:00:40 which is becoming rampant even on smartphones,
1:00:44 directly discriminates against persons with disabilities,
1:00:47 with facial disfigurement.
1:00:49 The very people who need the technology to drive
1:00:53 a much more inclusive future.
1:00:56 So great care will be needed to ensure
1:00:59 that the new technologies do not embed ableism
1:01:03 and indeed ageism.
1:01:05 If they do,
1:01:06 persons with disabilities will not just be left behind,
1:01:10 they will have no chance to catch up.
1:01:13 In sum,
1:01:13 I warmly welcome the revised draft framework
1:01:17 and for our part,
1:01:18 pledge our direct assistance,
1:01:21 particularly when it comes to conflicts
1:01:23 as well as digital development.
1:01:25 Thank you so much,
1:01:26 Charlotte.
1:01:27 Congratulations and back to you.
1:01:31 Thank you very much,
1:01:32 Gerard.
1:01:32 It really,
1:01:33 it's truly an honor to have you join us today.
1:01:36 And,
1:01:36 and I,
1:01:36 I think,
1:01:37 you know,
1:01:37 we will certainly take you up on your offer of
1:01:40 direct assistance in these two very critical areas around fragility,
1:01:44 conflict,
1:01:45 and violence,
1:01:46 and then very importantly,
1:01:47 in,
1:01:48 in the digital space.
1:01:49 And I think one of the messages that really sticks with me is that,
1:01:53 you know,
1:01:54 we can't underplay the role of digital development.
1:01:57 And if,
1:01:58 if anything,
1:01:58 what we should do is we should leapfrog over the mistakes that have been made,
1:02:03 um,
1:02:03 in,
1:02:04 in the north and make sure that
1:02:06 digital development actually reaches persons with disabilities,
1:02:09 impacts their lives,
1:02:11 and,
1:02:11 and changes their lives.
1:02:12 And then,
1:02:13 you know,
1:02:13 we,
1:02:13 I couldn't agree more on the issues raised on AI both as a risk but as an opportunity.
1:02:20 So we look forward to continued,
1:02:22 um,
1:02:22 you know,
1:02:22 a working relationship with you on this.
1:02:25 We have a little bit of time for questions,
1:02:28 and we have a few questions that have
1:02:30 uh been put into the chat box,
1:02:32 and we had some
1:02:34 um questions that came in from the audiences as they registered.
1:02:38 So I would like to take,
1:02:40 uh,
1:02:40 a few of,
1:02:41 of both,
1:02:42 given the,
1:02:42 given the limited time.
1:02:44 The first question,
1:02:45 um,
1:02:46 comes from
1:02:47 Ru
1:02:47 Ruy Wimbo.
1:02:49 And Rivimbo says,
1:02:51 what are the key first steps a donor government should consider
1:02:56 when developing a strategy
1:02:58 or a framework for disability inclusion?
1:03:01 And perhaps Gopal can get us started on that question,
1:03:05 and so
1:03:06 give me a second,
1:03:06 Gopal,
1:03:07 I'll ask the second question,
1:03:08 and then we,
1:03:09 we can respond.
1:03:11 Then we have a
1:03:12 question from Phyllis,
1:03:13 and
1:03:14 Phyllis says,
1:03:15 what are the investments of the World Bank to improve health
1:03:20 access barriers and health outcomes for persons with disabilities,
1:03:23 and I imagine that one would go to Samira.
1:03:26 And then there's a question that's come up around
1:03:30 having an easy to read or plain language,
1:03:33 um,
1:03:34 uh,
1:03:35 plain language being included as part of
1:03:37 the accessibility for the World Bank framework,
1:03:39 and I'll ask Mari to speak to that,
1:03:42 um,
1:03:42 but let me hand over to Gopal.
1:03:45 Samira,
1:03:46 Mari,
1:03:46 and then we'll see if we have time for another set of questions.
1:03:49 Gopal,
1:03:49 over to you.
1:03:52 Uh,
1:03:52 thank you so much,
1:03:53 Charlotte.
1:03:53 Uh.
1:03:54 Just a couple of reflections.
1:03:56 First of all,
1:03:57 uh,
1:03:58 when we were,
1:03:59 uh,
1:03:59 developing the UN disability inclusion strategy,
1:04:01 what we,
1:04:02 uh,
1:04:03 what was brought to our attention to the consultations is that,
1:04:06 and it applies to,
1:04:08 I think,
1:04:08 many other domains,
1:04:09 is that,
1:04:10 uh,
1:04:11 the progress,
1:04:12 the current status or the progress is uneven
1:04:15 among
1:04:16 different parts,
1:04:17 uh,
1:04:18 uh,
1:04:18 uh,
1:04:19 uh,
1:04:19 in our case,
1:04:20 the UN system.
1:04:22 There is a great diversity within the organizations,
1:04:25 you know,
1:04:26 so a strategy has to keep
1:04:28 in mind that aspect.
1:04:31 The strategy,
1:04:32 uh,
1:04:32 any strategy has to keep in mind that aspect so that it's,
1:04:35 it's very relevant.
1:04:37 Uh,
1:04:37 the second,
1:04:38 I think,
1:04:38 is which is foundational,
1:04:40 is it cannot,
1:04:42 uh,
1:04:43 stress enough
1:04:44 on the importance of meaningfully engaging persons with
1:04:48 disabilities and their representative organization at every stage
1:04:52 of implementation as well as its development.
1:04:55 And the,
1:04:56 and the third point is
1:04:58 we talk about the twin track approach,
1:05:00 right?
1:05:01 So
1:05:02 it is how to meaningfully operationalize twin track approach.
1:05:06 We know that targeted investment towards disability inclusion
1:05:10 will be minuscule compared to overall investment in social and economic sectors.
1:05:17 So unless we are able to
1:05:19 Really include,
1:05:20 uh,
1:05:20 ensure disability inclusion
1:05:22 in the big,
1:05:23 biggest,
1:05:24 bigger piece of the pie,
1:05:26 which is general programming,
1:05:28 uh,
1:05:28 and then supported to targeted programming,
1:05:31 uh,
1:05:31 will not be able to make progress,
1:05:32 but if we are able to do it,
1:05:34 I think,
1:05:34 uh,
1:05:35 there is so much more,
1:05:36 uh,
1:05:36 scope
1:05:37 to advance
1:05:38 the inclusion of persons with disabilities.
1:05:39 So those were just a few reflections over to you.
1:05:43 Thanks,
1:05:43 Gopal.
1:05:44 Um,
1:05:44 Samira,
1:05:44 do you want to come in on the question around investments,
1:05:47 um,
1:05:48 to improve health?
1:05:50 Access barriers and outcomes.
1:05:54 Sure,
1:05:55 Charlatan,
1:05:55 thanks for the question.
1:05:57 I think,
1:05:57 um,
1:05:58 I mean,
1:05:59 I,
1:05:59 I don't want to,
1:06:00 to sound
1:06:01 naive,
1:06:02 but I think good advocacy,
1:06:05 especially within the internal
1:06:07 ecosystem within any organization,
1:06:09 but especially the World Bank would,
1:06:11 would really
1:06:12 go a very,
1:06:13 very um
1:06:14 A long way.
1:06:16 If we can show
1:06:18 the,
1:06:18 the,
1:06:18 the cost of doing nothing
1:06:21 on not just the development and the accumulation of the human capital
1:06:25 and from the rights perspective which are really,
1:06:27 uh,
1:06:28 you know,
1:06:28 core issues,
1:06:29 no one can,
1:06:30 can overlook them.
1:06:31 But we also can try and,
1:06:32 and look at,
1:06:33 you know,
1:06:33 what does it mean for the GDP?
1:06:35 What does it mean for the overall
1:06:37 health sector expenses?
1:06:38 What does it mean
1:06:40 for
1:06:41 Unemployment or,
1:06:42 you know,
1:06:42 absenteeism from work and all of these things.
1:06:44 I think
1:06:45 this makes a very compelling argument in terms of
1:06:49 uh trying to socialize the notion of
1:06:51 when you do look at marginalized populations,
1:06:54 and I'm not saying that people with disabilities are marginalized,
1:06:57 but
1:06:57 what I'm trying to,
1:06:58 to say is that when you look at different sects of population,
1:07:01 it becomes a population health.
1:07:03 Um,
1:07:03 aspect more than anything else.
1:07:05 It is not easy,
1:07:06 but it's also
1:07:07 comes under the shadow of many other
1:07:10 what we call neglected diseases or neglected populations,
1:07:13 but I think it can be done through good data,
1:07:16 good dialogue,
1:07:16 and good advocacy material.
1:07:18 Thank you.
1:07:20 Thanks,
1:07:20 Samira.
1:07:21 Maria,
1:07:21 a quick word from you.
1:07:24 Thank you,
1:07:25 Charlotte.
1:07:25 Yes,
1:07:26 uh,
1:07:26 so it was on the,
1:07:27 uh,
1:07:28 on the different,
1:07:28 uh,
1:07:29 formats of,
1:07:30 uh,
1:07:30 of the framework.
1:07:31 So
1:07:31 shortly,
1:07:32 yes,
1:07:32 so thank you very much for this,
1:07:34 uh,
1:07:34 important question.
1:07:35 Yes,
1:07:36 we are going to develop an easy to
1:07:38 read version
1:07:40 of,
1:07:40 of the framework.
1:07:41 So thank you so much for this.
1:07:43 Thank you.
1:07:44 So that will be forthcoming and there are a couple of questions that,
1:07:47 uh,
1:07:47 that I guess are,
1:07:48 I should answer.
1:07:49 There's a question from Abe
1:07:51 Abbewa from the Africa Disability Forum.
1:07:55 And
1:07:55 the question is,
1:07:57 um,
1:07:59 The World Bank updated the disability framework to
1:08:02 include new examples of disability inclusive projects.
1:08:05 Will persons with disabilities and organizations of persons with disabilities
1:08:09 engage and participate meaningfully from the start
1:08:12 to the end of these important projects?
1:08:14 A really great Question.
1:08:16 And so,
1:08:17 one of the things that we do by way of the environmental social framework
1:08:21 is to have
1:08:22 uh stakeholder engagement and consultations.
1:08:25 It's,
1:08:26 it's a requirement under the Environmental Social Standard 10.
1:08:31 So there is a requirement that at that stage,
1:08:35 at the stage of consultation,
1:08:37 that persons and organizations of persons with disabilities are,
1:08:41 are engaged.
1:08:42 Now,
1:08:42 I will be the first one to say that that doesn't always happen.
1:08:47 But that it is certainly progressively happening.
1:08:50 What we want to maintain is that
1:08:54 We can go
1:08:55 beyond just having persons with disabilities in the consultations,
1:08:59 but that they're part of supervision and that they
1:09:02 continue to be part of the project cycle.
1:09:05 So,
1:09:06 that's a,
1:09:07 you know,
1:09:07 that's a space that we're looking at and we need to get better at doing,
1:09:11 and we
1:09:12 really want you to hold us accountable.
1:09:15 And call us out when we don't do that.
1:09:17 So,
1:09:18 so please just
1:09:19 be mindful of that and,
1:09:21 and let us know if we're not,
1:09:22 if we're not doing that
1:09:23 in,
1:09:23 in your particular context.
1:09:26 There was also another question around
1:09:28 why do we have so many disability experts at our headquarters
1:09:33 as opposed to having them at national level.
1:09:36 Uh,
1:09:36 where most of our projects are.
1:09:38 Um,
1:09:39 we actually
1:09:40 don't have that many experts,
1:09:43 um,
1:09:43 on disability at headquarters.
1:09:45 Um,
1:09:46 we have a very lean team.
1:09:48 And increasingly,
1:09:49 the bank is decentralizing its staff,
1:09:52 so we're finding that we do have a lot more colleagues that are working on disability
1:09:59 who are in-country offices.
1:10:01 And I think to Gopal's 0.1 of the benefits of these frameworks,
1:10:06 both at the UN and within the bank,
1:10:08 is that
1:10:09 Addressing disability ceases to be just the responsibility of the disability team
1:10:15 and in,
1:10:15 in,
1:10:16 in the case of,
1:10:17 you know,
1:10:17 in,
1:10:17 in that case,
1:10:18 being at headquarters,
1:10:19 but it becomes the responsibility
1:10:22 of colleagues that are working in the field
1:10:24 on various,
1:10:25 in various sectors.
1:10:27 So that is,
1:10:28 it,
1:10:28 it's an,
1:10:29 it's an important move um and one that we recognize
1:10:33 as
1:10:34 Be necessary so that you can be on the ground,
1:10:37 you can engage with the clients,
1:10:39 you have access to organizations of persons with disabilities,
1:10:42 and you certainly understand the context a lot better than
1:10:45 um I do sitting in Washington DC.
1:10:48 So point taken on that.
1:10:50 We then also had a question around
1:10:52 um why is there no inclusive education for
1:10:55 children with disabilities in Nepal?
1:10:58 And I just want to bring to the attention of,
1:11:01 of the person who posed the question that actually Nepal is um
1:11:05 one of our focus countries on
1:11:07 the inclusive education initiative.
1:11:10 And we actually have quite a lot of work going
1:11:12 on in Nepal around inclusive education for children with disabilities.
1:11:17 And in fact,
1:11:18 tomorrow have an event
1:11:20 um that will showcase some of that work.
1:11:23 So we would invite you to join,
1:11:25 join us for the event um tomorrow.
1:11:28 And I think Anna is posting um
1:11:31 the link to the event into the chat box.
1:11:33 So
1:11:34 please do join us and you can learn a bit more about
1:11:38 what we're doing um in Nepal on disability inclusion.
1:11:44 OK,
1:11:44 are there any more questions that I should be focusing on?
1:11:50 Um,
1:11:51 there's a question to Gopal.
1:11:54 And the question
1:11:56 is,
1:11:57 what are some of the main challenges in the rollout of the UN
1:12:01 disability strategy?
1:12:06 Thank you,
1:12:07 Charlotte.
1:12:07 Uh,
1:12:08 so I,
1:12:08 uh,
1:12:09 as I was,
1:12:10 uh,
1:12:10 uh,
1:12:10 briefly alluded to before,
1:12:12 uh,
1:12:13 so first is,
1:12:14 uh,
1:12:14 we did not have a very,
1:12:17 very strong framework
1:12:19 of policies,
1:12:20 procedures,
1:12:20 and the guidance,
1:12:22 you know,
1:12:23 so,
1:12:23 uh,
1:12:23 that is,
1:12:24 uh,
1:12:24 that over the last two years we have been able to plug some of those gaps.
1:12:29 Uh,
1:12:30 second,
1:12:30 of course,
1:12:31 as you will realize,
1:12:32 is,
1:12:32 is,
1:12:33 uh,
1:12:34 there is a gap
1:12:35 in between the intent
1:12:37 and the capacity.
1:12:38 Right?
1:12:39 So,
1:12:39 uh,
1:12:40 that is,
1:12:41 that is already always,
1:12:43 uh,
1:12:43 always an issue,
1:12:44 and we,
1:12:45 we have been
1:12:46 very,
1:12:46 very systematically trying to,
1:12:49 uh,
1:12:49 build knowledge,
1:12:50 uh,
1:12:51 build,
1:12:51 uh,
1:12:52 uh,
1:12:52 develop,
1:12:52 uh,
1:12:53 capacities,
1:12:54 uh,
1:12:54 on disability inclusion
1:12:56 across the organization.
1:12:57 And as Charlotte,
1:12:57 you also mentioned,
1:12:59 uh,
1:12:59 we are seeing more and more,
1:13:00 uh,
1:13:01 poor person,
1:13:02 not only persons with disabilities being hired,
1:13:04 but also more and more,
1:13:06 uh,
1:13:06 uh.
1:13:07 Uh,
1:13:07 colleagues working on disability inclusion
1:13:10 with the expertise.
1:13:11 So,
1:13:12 uh,
1:13:13 these are,
1:13:13 I think,
1:13:14 some,
1:13:14 some of the,
1:13:15 some of the key challenges,
1:13:17 uh,
1:13:17 which we,
1:13:18 we have faced,
1:13:19 and we are,
1:13:19 we are
1:13:20 trying to systematically address them.
1:13:21 But at the same time,
1:13:22 I must say that it's,
1:13:24 it,
1:13:24 it takes time,
1:13:25 doesn't happen overnight,
1:13:26 you know,
1:13:26 but,
1:13:27 uh,
1:13:27 uh,
1:13:28 the strategy does enable us to
1:13:30 much more efficiently identify
1:13:33 those gaps,
1:13:33 those challenges,
1:13:34 and come together to address them.
1:13:37 Thank you,
1:13:38 Sean.
1:13:39 Thank you very much,
1:13:40 Gopal,
1:13:40 and I know there are still a couple of questions,
1:13:43 um,
1:13:44 that are in the chat box.
1:13:45 We will go through them and we will respond directly to
1:13:48 the individuals that have posed them so that questions don't go
1:13:52 unanswered.
1:13:53 But my role now is to thank everybody for joining us.
1:13:57 Um,
1:13:58 this has been a very,
1:13:59 very rich session.
1:14:01 And I think it just,
1:14:02 you know,
1:14:03 provides um testimony to the importance of having frameworks.
1:14:07 Having frameworks that in the case of the bank provide a roadmap
1:14:11 for staff,
1:14:13 um,
1:14:13 and have really served to invigorate and,
1:14:16 and generate
1:14:17 a lot of traction
1:14:19 in,
1:14:19 in,
1:14:20 in advancing disability inclusion.
1:14:22 Now,
1:14:23 of course,
1:14:23 the framework
1:14:24 is a framework.
1:14:25 Um,
1:14:26 and you need to have a whole lot of other things in place.
1:14:28 You need to build the capacity,
1:14:30 you need to have resources,
1:14:32 uh,
1:14:32 you need to have
1:14:33 a willing client that wants to,
1:14:35 wants to engage on disability inclusion.
1:14:38 And so it really does require all of us to participate.
1:14:42 It needs to,
1:14:42 we need to ensure that we are better
1:14:45 at working with organizations of persons with disabilities,
1:14:48 um,
1:14:49 because this is something that we all need to be part of.
1:14:52 Thank you all very much for joining us.
1:14:54 It's been an absolute pleasure.
1:15:00 Thank you,
1:15:01 Charlotte.
1:15:03 Thank you
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