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Re: Bulletin board for participants (Dave Witzel)
Re: Topic for another conference? (Dave Witzel)
Date: 22/May/1998 22:18
From: netra@pop.jaring.my>

 Dear all,
>
> I was very surprised to read in Dr Forsythe's summary that there were very
> few responses from Asia though when I think about it, it's true. Even Dr
> Uhrig, while I know he works in Vietnam and obviously speaks
> Vietnamese, is
> not, technically speaking, Asian. I think it's because most people working
> in HIV/AIDs in Asia are not economists and most Asian economists are not
> thinking about HIV/AIDS.They have a lot of other things to think about at
> the moment and AIDS is unfortunately not on the agenda. Seems a bit
> irrelevant to talk about providing ARVs in say, Indonesia, at this
> particular moment.
>
> I found the forum very interesting although because I'm not an economist,
> often I found it intimidating. I try and follow the arguments but it's
> difficult. As an activist who works with human beings, the emphasis on
> numbers is frustrating.That's why I was so relieved when someone, Claude
> Kamenga I think it was,  mentioned the human being at the centre of all
> this and said so, only to be attacked by an economist who says we musn't
> think about that. Well I'm sorry but AIDS above all affects individual
> human beings who are suffering in many ways and all the bean counting in
> the world is not going to make their lives better right now.It would be
> nice if ethics etc pushed the numbers rather than the other way round.
>
> Can't for the moment think of other topics to talk about --I'm
> already on 3
> other forums at the moment. Hope the result of all this comes out
> in Geneva.
>
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Marina Mahathir
> President,
> Malaysian AIDS Council,
> 3, Jalan Cempedak,
> off Jalan Kovil Hilir,
> Sentul,
> 55100 Kuala Lumpur,
> Malaysia.
>
> tel: 603-445-1033
> fax: 603-442-6133
> homepage: http:www.asiaconnect.com.my/aids
>



Responses:

1. "Ethics should push the numbers" by Mead Over, 29/May/1998 15:07
(_ Framing ethical issues by Terry Albert, 01/Jun/1998 12:22

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